Comparing groups is not always an easy task, but it is always very, very entertaining. We at Fiction Horizon have already done such comparisons and in wake of James Gunn’s new movie, we have decided to do a series of comparisons focused on the Suicide Squad. In this article, we are going to do an intercompany crossover event as we are going to do an analysis to determine whether the Suicide Squad could defeat the Avengers. Enjoy!
The Suicide Squad could certainly win against a weaker roster of the Avengers, a roster without godly characters or the Hulk. Still, if the Avengers had all of their core members with them, including Thor and Hulk, the Suicide Squad would really stand no chance against them.
Our comparison is going to be divided into two sections. The first is going to bring an overview of the two groups, after which we are going to bring you a detailed analysis of the two groups to determine which one would win in a direct clash. This is a bit different than our individual character comparisons, as it would take up too much time to compare each member, even if we only choose the most famous iterations, which is why we are going to do a collective analysis here.
The Suicide Squad and its powers
The Suicide Squad is the name of a fictional team of supervillains that appears in comics published by DC Comics. The first version of the Suicide Squad debuted in The Brave and the Bold #25 (1959) and the second modern version, created by John Ostrander, debuted in Legends #3 (1987). The modern incarnation of the Suicide Squad is Task Force X, a team of incarcerated supervillains who go on secret missions in exchange for reduced prison terms. The Suicide Squad’s name alludes to the dangerous nature of its missions. The team is based at Belle Reve Penitentiary under the direction of Amanda Waller.
The Suicide Squad is a group of supervillains hired by the government to carry out missions that were classified as suicide because of their complexity. They were frequently paired with the government agency Checkmate, culminating in the Janus Directive crossover. These villains agreed to take on missions for the Suicide Squad, in exchange for commuting their sentences.
Although the team was successful in most of its missions, there were often failures or the death of one or more members. Non-inmate members such as Nemesis and Nocturna participate in the team as part of individual agreements. To prevent members from escaping into the camp, the prisoners were equipped with an explosive bracelet that detonated at a certain distance from the camp leader, who was typically Rick Flag who carried a remote control to detonate or deactivate the bracelets if desired.
The martial artist named Bronze Tiger acts as a disciplinary measure and later, following the death of Rick Flag, as the team’s field leader. The group is run by Amanda Waller, although she sometimes goes undercover, especially after the Suicide Squad’s existence became public. Eventually, the Suicide Squad breaks away from government control and becomes an independent organization.
The Suicide Squad’s first mission was against their recurring enemies, Jihad. They infiltrate their headquarters and proceed to kill most of the members. This event revealed the death of Mindboggler, the cowardly and treacherous nature of Captain Boomerang, Nocturna’s attraction to Rick Flag Jr., a rivalry between Rustam and Rick, and the defeat of Ravan at the hands of Bronze Tiger.
On Derek Tolliver’s orders, the Suicide Squad is sent to Moscow in order to free the captive Zoya Trigorin, a revolutionary writer. They come face to face with the “People’s Heroes”, a Russian group of metahumans. In the conflict, Trigorin dies and Nemesis (Tom Tresser) is captured. Nemesis eventually escapes thanks to a collaboration between the Suicide Squad and the Justice League International, although the two teams fight each other initially.
This conflict is primarily the result of Batman’s investigation into the Suicide Squad and his confrontation. with Waller. Later, Rick Flag Jr goes after Senator Cray in order to assassinate him. Previously, Senator Cray had blackmailed Amanda Waller; in order to secure his re-election, Cray threatened to expose the Suicide Squad to the public, potentially dangerous to the Squad’s existence and Waller’s career.
In order to stop him, the squad sends Deadshot to confront Flag shortly before he can shoot Cray, but he is too late to prevent the assassination and Tolliver is killed. Rather than disarm or kill Flag, Deadshot opts to kill Cray. In his understanding, he maintains the mission statement: to prevent the murder of Cray at the hands of Flag.
Against Flag Jr.’s intentions, the Suicide Squad exposes itself to the public. As a result of the exposure, Amanda Waller is replaced by a man named Jack Kale, in fact an actor, working as a cover so Waller can continue to coordinate the squad. Later, though, Waller disbands the Suicide Squad. However, Waller reunites the Squad again at a later point. It is made up of Bolt, Sledge, Killer Frost and Copperhead who are on a mission to South America. The superheroes Falcon and Paloma (Sasha Martens and Wolverman Wiley) face a new Suicide Squad.
Later, Lex Luthor, organizes another Suicide Squad during his tenure as President of the United States10 so that they can free Doomsday and confront Imperiex. This version of the team was led by Black Manchester, under Steel’s supervision. Doomsday apparently kills most of the Brigade after freeing him. Then Colonel Computron defected from the team and tried to contact Checkmate. He was murdered by Amanda Waller’s agents shortly after.
The Avengers and their powers
The Avengers are a fictional superhero group that operates within the Marvel Universe. They debuted in The Avengers #1 (1964), and were created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. The Avengers have a longstanding tradition within the Marvel Universe and are one of the company’s biggest brands.
As far as Marvel is concerned, the Avengers are without a doubt the most famous and most popular superhero group. Labeled “Earth’s Mightiest Heroes”, the Avengers originally consisted of Iron Man, the Wasp, the Hulk, Thor, and Ant-Man.
The original Captain America was discovered trapped in ice soon after their initial debut, and joined the group after they revived him. A rotating roster became a hallmark of the series, although one theme remained consistent: the Avengers fight “the foes no single superhero can withstand.”
The team, famous for its battle cry of “Avengers Assemble!”, has featured humans, superhumans, mutants, Inhumans, deities, androids, aliens, legendary beings, and even former villains.
The Avengers are the principal defenders of Earth and most of their members are actually Earth-based superheroes, although there have been certain exceptions. They have been protecting Earth from both internal and cosmic threats, but they have also participated in various cosmic clashes in order to save the whole universe, most notably against Thanos. As far as superhero groups go, the Avengers are Marvel’s #1 brand.
Some of the group’s prominent members are Ant-Man, Captain America, Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, Wasp, Agent Venom, Ant-Man (Scott Lang), Beast, Black Knight, Black Panther, Black Widow, Blade, Captain Marvel, Crystal, Doctor Strange, Falcon, Ghost Rider, Hawkeye, Hellcat, Hercules, Human Torch, Hyperion, Invisible Woman, Iron Fist, Jane Foster, Justice, Luke Cage, Mister Fantastic, Mockingbird, Moondragon, Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nebula, Nova, Quicksilver, Rocket Raccoon, Scarlet Witch, Shang-Chi, She-Hulk, Spider-Man, Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Spider-Woman, Storm, Thing, Thor Girl, Tigra, Valkyrie, Vision, War Machine, Wasp (Hope Van Dyne), Winter Soldier, Wolverine, Wonder Man, and others.
Suicide Squad vs Avengers: Who would win?
Both groups have, as we could se, had different members at different points in time. This is why it is so difficult to do a proper comparison, as it is tough to make a proper selection, especially since the Avengers have had some godly characters on their side, unlike the Suicide Squad. This means that this battle depends on the members participating in it. The Suicide Squad could certainly defeat the Avengers, but it would have to be a very specific roster.
Let us say that the Avengers come with their best-known and strongest roster, a roster that includes Thor and Hulk. The Suicide Squad could come with any possible roster and it wouldn’t really matter, since the group never had a member that was even near the power levels of Thor or Hulk. Surely, the Squad could deal with the likes of Iron Man, Captain America, or Black Widow, but these two overpowered characters would be a complete mystery for them, as they’d have nothing to use against them in a direct fight.
What is the exact meaning of this? In terms of winning a fight, the Suicide Squad would certainly have to be on their best – e.g. Deadshot, Bronze Tiger, Bane, Harley Quinn, Killer Frost, Captain Boomerang, and the likes – while the Avengers would have to send out a weaker team. This team could not include godly characters or characters that are near Hulk’s power level. As for the others, well – the Squad could certainly defeat them.
Bane would be able to deal with Iron Man thanks to his enormous strength, while Bronze Tiger would be able to defeat Captain America in direct physical combat; even Batman, who is not necessarily a better fighter than Batman (and if he is, it’s not by much), was able to outclass Captain America, so we don’t doubt that the Bronze Tiger would be able to do it to. Deadshot, together with some help from Harley Quinn, would be able to take on Spider-Man and Black Widow, while Killer Frost would use her powers to defeat practically any other non-godly Avenger.
And this brings our analysis to its end. If the Suicide Squad hope to have a chance against the Avengers, the Avengers have to send a weaker roster. This means that characters that are on or near the power levels of Thor, Hulk, Valkyrie, or Thor Girl could not participate, if the Suicide Squad hoped to stand at least some chance against the Avengers. If such characters did participate in these fights then, unfortunately for them, the Suicide Squad would really stand absolutely no chance.
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