‘The Marvels’: Monica Rambeau’s Final Destination – Where Did She End Up, Is It Earth-838?


In the conclusion of ‘The Marvels,’ we witnessed Monica Rambeau selflessly sacrificing herself to close a dimensional hole. Left stranded on the other side, the post-credit scene unveiled Monica waking up in an alternate universe where her mother was alive and the X-Men were a reality. The question arises: which universe did Monica Rambeau find herself in, and could it be Earth-838?

  • Article Breakdown:
  • In the alternate universe, Monica Rambeau awoke to find Maria as Captain Marvel, accompanied by the presence of Beast from the X-Men.
  • This scenario strongly suggests Earth-838, where Maria potentially survived Scarlet Witch’s assault.
  • Yet, it remains plausible that this constitutes an entirely distinct universe where Maria retains the mantle of Captain Marvel.

If there’s one thing that’s certain, Maria Rambeau is Captain Marvel of this Universe

It’s common knowledge that Carol Danvers assumes the role of Captain Marvel in the MCU, a position she’s held for approximately three decades. Her transformation into Captain Marvel stemmed from an incident involving the Light-Speed Engine, where she emerged victorious in an ’80s race against Maria Rambeau. However, there’s a potential twist—had Maria won the race, she might have been the one exposed to the explosion of the Light-Speed Engine.

In ‘Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness,’ Maria made her debut as Captain Marvel when Strange was brought into the Illuminati—a coalition of various superhero leaders in the universe, Earth-838. This parallel universe, akin to Earth-616, differed yet shared striking similarities with our familiar reality.

Moving on to ‘The Marvels’ post-credit scene, Monica Rambeau found herself in a different universe after sacrificing herself to close a perilous dimensional portal. Absorbing the powers of Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel, she was left stranded, needing to seal the portal from the other side.

Upon waking up next to Maria Rambeau’s bed, Monica joyfully greeted her, referring to her as her mother. However, Maria was perplexed, unaware of Monica’s identity. It was revealed that Maria, in this universe, held the role of Captain Marvel.

The confusion between Monica and Maria was understandable, given that Maria’s life as Captain Marvel likely precluded her from having a family, mirroring Carol Danvers’ own experiences in Earth-616. Hence, Monica might not exist in this universe, explaining Maria’s lack of recognition.


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We’ve seen Scarlet Witch killing Maria Rambeau

After fans observed that Maria was Captain Marvel in the universe Monica arrived in, they speculated that this might be Earth-838—the same universe where Doctor Strange encountered the Illuminati in ‘Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.’ It’s a reasonable assumption, given that most universes in the multiverse likely feature Carol instead of Maria as Captain Marvel.

However, it’s crucial to note that Scarlet Witch annihilated the leadership of Earth-838 in ‘Multiverse of Madness.’ Using the Darkhold, she inhabited the body of Wanda Maximoff from Earth-838 to reach America Chavez, who was then in Illuminati custody. Scarlet Witch infiltrated the Illuminati base, resulting in the death of almost all leaders, including Captain Marvel.

Considering Maria’s demise by Scarlet Witch’s hand on Earth-838, it initially seems improbable that Monica ended up in the same universe. Scarlet Witch crushed Maria under a massive statue, though her actual death wasn’t confirmed. Given Captain Marvel’s resilience, it’s plausible that Maria survived, which aligns with her appearance on a bed receiving treatments from the Beast in ‘The Marvels’ post-credit scene. Scars suggested past battles, reinforcing the likelihood that Monica indeed arrived in Earth-838.

As the MCU unfolds, future events are expected to showcase various universes converging, bringing together Mutants, the Fantastic Four, and the Avengers. ‘Multiverse of Madness’ hinted at an Incursion between Earth-616 and Earth-838, anticipating a clash that could destroy one or both universes. Clea’s reference likely pointed to this impending clash.

This intensifies the likelihood that Monica ended up in Earth-838, a universe housing Mutants. However, the entrance of the Fantastic Four into the MCU complicates matters. During ‘Multiverse of Madness,’ Scarlet Witch seemingly killed Mister Fantastic in a more explicit manner, tearing him apart. If Monica is in Earth-838, addressing how Mister Fantastic survived becomes a crucial question as the Mutants and the Fantastic Four prepare to join the MCU.


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There’s also the possibility of two Universes colliding

Another potential scenario is that Monica did indeed land in Earth-838, where Maria might have been recuperating from the injuries sustained in the skirmish against Scarlet Witch. However, it’s also plausible that Earth-838 won’t be the sole universe set to collide with Earth-616, especially if Mister Fantastic truly met his demise in ‘Multiverse of Madness.’

With a Fantastic Four film slated for the future, it’s likely that this movie will unfold in a universe distinct from both Earth-616 and Earth-838. In such a case, the collision with Earth-616 could involve not just Earth-838 but also the universe of the Fantastic Four.

‘Multiverse of Madness’ clarified that an Incursion occurs when someone from a different universe influences the events of another. Therefore, Monica’s presence in the universe where she found herself stranded could serve as the catalyst for the Incursion anticipated in future Marvel Studios’ big-event movies. These developments are poised to unfold in the upcoming cinematic slate.

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